SXSW2009 – Civic Technologies and the Future of the Internet

10:20 AM Japor - at Civic Technologies and the Future of the Internet-Jonathan Zittrain
10:21 AM AdamSchwabe - More people fixing problems on Wikipedia than problems appearing on the page.
10:22 AM AdamSchwabe - Wikipedia’s existence is held up by ‘civic defense’ of people watching the barricades.
10:23 AM remarkk - Talking about the fragile nature of the civic defense force that keeps the internet what it is today. Anywhere in the world, somebody is waking up to maintain it. We are always 45 minutes from utter destruction. Whoah.
10:23 AM AdamSchwabe - Cats that look like Hitler!
10:24 AM Rathbone - #sxsw Future of the Internet — Nanog and Wikipedia are “amazing civic defense syst… – at South by Southwest Con… http://shz.me/4si
10:25 AM remarkk - NANOG (North American Network Operators Group) provides a forum for the exchange of technical information, and promotes discussion of implementation issues that require community cooperation.

10:28 AM AdamSchwabe - Not much has changed since computers were first around – give it an .exe and it’ll run the code. Very ‘civic’ – you and your pals decide what the code is.
10:30 AM ejyoung67 - Zittrain says Wikipedia civic defense system is the only thing that keeps it going. Ppl w/passion make it work. #sxsw
10:30 AM tvol - sez @zittrain re: civic defense systems on the Internet: “for wikipedia, the price of freedom is eternal vigilance”
10:37 AM matt_wilson - If your session currently sucks, Zittrain in Room 8 is killing.
10:37 AM propylae - #Zittrain providing an insightful and inspiring speech on civic computing. Yet I can’t help but note the Baltar for President tee-shirt #BSG
10:38 AM fuzheado - Worries about “closed” systems (Kindle and iPhone) vs. machines you can tinker with (Apple II) #zittrain #sxsw
10:39 AM AdamSchwabe - Discussing Apple’s ridiculous takedowns and approvals in the App Store for iPhone Apps (i.e. IAmRich app)
10:40 AM Kabren - “Steve Jobs says ‘We control everything on the phone…’” #zittrain #sxsw
10:41 AM ejyoung67 - Zittrain (heres the future) says computers will be locked down to protect the user. Uses iPhone ex. to show how Apple tries control #sxsw
10:42 AM AdamSchwabe - Steve Jobs’ personal reply to rejected App store author – “what’s the point?” – ‘huge sea change in innovation of civic technologies. This isn’t just about phones, this model is the model of the future. Where the PC is going?’
10:43 AM AdamSchwabe - All the Web 2.0 stuff in other rooms of this conference – have this concept of the vendor controlling the platform and what gets added there (i.e. Facebook app platform)
10:43 AM gilgul - zittrain: “windows is still an incredibly civic technology – lets you do what you want with it – not like the iphone”. #sxsw
10:44 AM AdamSchwabe - The custodians control it for their own purposes, and can be asked by regulators to make changes.
10:46 AM AdamSchwabe - Kindle’s text to speech issue. Publishers outraged over this who negotiated about rights and found out audiobooks were basically there. Amazon technically legally in the clear.
10:47 AM AdamSchwabe - On* system – FBI found out about ability to listen/talk to people in car. Contacted another company and asked them to listen into all conversations at all times, company agrees then realizes implications, then sues the United States of America.
10:48 AM AdamSchwabe - Company lost the lawsuit.
10:48 AM Kabren - Car containing people of interest to the FBI, gov says reprogram, so we can listen in. Company complies. Company vs. USA #sxsw #zittrain
10:49 AM james_nathaniel - Check out 9th circuit The Company v USA. Zittrain: we are building an Orwellian infrastructure. #sxsw
10:50 AM AdamSchwabe - Me: This Orwellian ‘always listening, everywhere, through your phone, etc.’ totally reminds me of The Dark Knight.
10:52 AM Kabren - Civic technologies require the passion of citizens. #zittrain #sxsw
10:52 AM remarkk - What should we do? We need to buttress our civic defenses. StopBadWare.org and OpenNet Initiative is what Zittrain is involved with.
10:55 AM Kabren - “The Herdict Project – we couldn’t bring ourselves to call it flockdict” #zittrain #sxsw
10:55 AM AdamSchwabe - ‘The Herdict Project’ at www.amiblockedornot.org like hot or not for ‘great firewall of China’ kind of thing, but international scope. Let’s us identify blocked/accessible sites from all over the world.
10:56 AM AdamSchwabe - couchsurfing.com trying to enact ‘civic defenses’ lots of danger in people sleeping at strangers’ places. “all sorts of ways in which we’ll be called together as people for a common cause”
10:58 AM AdamSchwabe - Social engineering scammers taking captchas, offering free porn for crowdsourced captcha breakdown. EVIL! PORN FOR EVIL!
11:00 AM AdamSchwabe - Roadside cameras that detect BLOOD will catch lone drivers who abuse car-sharing lanes
11:00 AM remarkk - What world are we building? There was a time when hitch hiking was civil norm. Craigslist ridesharing is a new iteration of an old phenomenon.
11:01 AM AdamSchwabe - Q&A Time.
11:02 AM remarkk - Chances of getting working legislation out of regulators today is low. Most of the solutions involve self-regulation and NANOG-like structures.
10:21 AM remarkk - Link to session description

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